Question Reguarding MAG Sniper Rifle Regulations

[Micov223]

On the MaineAirsoft.com board I noticed this post by Smoke:

would I have to go through a sniper course if I usede .20s with a 460fps gun?

If it is a semi/full auto gun it currently could not be used, even with sniper training.

Some gas guns are semi automatic, without anything but a pull of the trigger. These shoot from 450-500 FPS.
 This would be considered allowed, correct?
Yet a AEG that's been upgraded to a point where it shot "460" fps, with .20g bbs.
It would be barred from use, correct?

Everything makes sense... but at what point is an AEG considered a sniper rifle, and a sniper rifle considered an AEG?
Well, as we all know, "A.E.G." stands for Airsoft Electric Gun. This traditional acronym would make one think that an AEG could never be a sniper rifle. MAG rules also state:

Standard FPS Limits:
Chronographs are used before games to test all replicas present. Any replicas that test too high will not be allowed in play. No exceptions will be made, please research upgrades and how they effect your replica before purchasing or installing them. All of the following velocity limits are with .2g BBs.
Fully/Semi Automatics - 450 fps (1.5j)
CQB/Indoor - All under 330 fps (1j)
Sniper Rifles - 550 FPS (2.8j)
*Limits Measured with .20g B

This to me means that there there is a loophole for a Semi Automatic Sniper Rifle.
What if one upgraded his or her AEG to a point where it was over the 450 FPS limit, yet set it to semi-automatic only?

Thanks for reading my topic.

[Smoke]

AEGs are not sniper rifles, thats what was decided. As for gas rifles, semi auto I believe we are still accepting but watching to make sure there are no issues. I will have to look back at my notes.

[Ghost]

my memory says you are correct smoke.
we are still "watching" gas guns.
the luger does not by definition count as a rifle, it is a handgun with a stock added on.
seeing as there is only one gas sniper rifle on the field, and no problems have happened, it has not been an issue.

[Micov223]

Thanks for the Clarification. It is clear that no AEG gun will be considered a sniper rifle, and semi-automatic sniper rifles are "watched."
And it's not an issue for our Any Given Sunday games, but at a game when we have 100 players...
It's good to know this stuff.

[PGids]

sorry but off topic... are we bring a chrono to D-Day to make sure no ones gun is running to hot?

[Micov223]

I assure you someone will be bringing one. Many people have them and I'm sure our team will bring one.
It's not really off topic.

[Smoke]

Yes, last year at D-Day we had a sort of registration check point you had to go through before entering the field. You had to hand over you paperwork and get your guns chrono'd before stepping onto the playing field. We even had to turn away one guy.

[PGids]

ok good now i can feel safe..btw what was that guy runing for a gun and FPS?

[Smoke]

If I remember correctly it was a Systema which has switchable pistons and it was around 500FPS for an AEG. He ended up swapping the piston and coming back at like 300FPS.

[Ghost]

Thanks for the Clarification. It is clear that no AEG gun will be considered a sniper rifle, and semi-automatic sniper rifles are "watched."
And it's not an issue for our Any Given Sunday games, but at a game when we have 100 players...
It's good to know this stuff.

no micov  the gun luger mkII are being watched. there are as Smoke stated NO semi auto sniper rifles.
a sniper rifle to qualify under our definitions must have a bolt or single action method for chambering a round, aegs by definition will not at this time be classified as a sniper weapon and must follow the aeg/rifleman rule.

[Micov223]

Smoke stated NO semi auto sniper rifles.

The whole point of this topic was to ask if such rifle would be considered a Sniper Rifle, or an AEG.
What you just said, Ghost, was that the definition of "Sniper Rifle" is "Bolt Action or Single Action,"
From what I understand now, such rifle would be considered an AEG as it's semi-automatic.



Interesting. I have seen some gas operated Semi-Automatic rifles that, by there looks, would be classified as a Sniper Rifle. [Like This.]
So this would be considered an AEG type rifle?

[Elmer Fudd]

could not be used on our field tho too high of fps

[PGids]

right but he was making a ponit it is just a pistol with a stock

[Smoke]

Smoke stated NO semi auto sniper rifles.

The whole point of this topic was to ask if such rifle would be considered a Sniper Rifle, or an AEG.
What you just said, Ghost, was that the definition of "Sniper Rifle" is "Bolt Action or Single Action,"
From what I understand now, such rifle would be considered an AEG as it's semi-automatic.



Interesting. I have seen some gas operated Semi-Automatic rifles that, by there looks, would be classified as a Sniper Rifle. [Like This.]
So this would be considered an AEG type rifle?

No, a gas gun would not be an AEG because the E stands for electric, but yet they are treated under the same rules as the AEGs.